The current executive director of the California State Athletic Commission” Andy Fosterjoined Big John McCarthy as a guest in the show, while the regular co-host Josh “The Punk” Thomson was gone.
During the introduction, McCarthy emphasized that Foster is a former Mma hunter and congratulated him on receiving his black belt in Brazilian Jiu-jitsu Earlier this year. Foster noted that Brown’s trip to Black Belt took almost twenty years.
The conversation continued with a deeper discussion about the most important differences between MMA and Box Sanction. With the head of a large athletic committee for the show, it was a timely opportunity to investigate the advantages and disadvantages of how both sports are regulated and how proposed changes can influence fighters, promoters and sport as a whole.
Big John asked,
“What should a hunter continue to actually have that fight sanction and assembled? Based on sanction costs for the sanctioning authorities, what are the steps that have to be taken?”
Foster replied,
“Many steps, John. Sometimes one promoter will have one hunter under contract, while the other promoter has the other hunter. Often one hunter of one promoter will have one of the belts. Let’s use the WBO as an example. And the other promoter can be two of the bells.
He continued to describe McCarthy the process of Riemunification in boxing and how difficult it can be to coordinate the interests of all involved.
“It’s pretty complicated. That’s why we don’t see it often,” he added.
McCarthy then spoke to the financial structure of boxing compared to MMA:
“Als je een jager bent voor een MMA -promotie en je krijgt de kans om voor de riem te vechten, de promotor brengt je niets in rekening. Je betaalt niet voor de riem. Je betaalt niet voor de gelegenheid. Ik heb enkele van deze vergoedingen bekeken. Jermell Charlo ging vechten voor meerdere titels en was ingesteld om een miljoen dollar te maken. Meteen van de top, de top, de top, de top, de sancties. Ik ga niet naar de name. “
Big John went on. “One was thirty thousand dollars, another thirty thousand, and the cheapest was twenty thousand. That everything comes out of his bag. He pays them for the right to fight for those titles. That does not happen in MMA. In boxing you not only pay for fighting, but you also pay for the belt. I’m wrong?”
After a short break, Foster replied,
“No, that’s the way it works.”
McCarthy laughed and continued,
“I don’t want to say it’s a racket, but it’s a racket. I understand what the sanctioning body is for, andy, but are they really needed? It is the promoter who puts the fight. The promoter is the one who takes the financial risk. And in today it is more difficult and harder for promoters to make money. I am right or am I wrong? ”
Foster, somewhat confused, started to answer before McCarthy jumped back in,
“I’ll just say I’m right. You don’t have to say anything.”
Sanction costs, title inflation and the fight for the future of boxing with Big John
Foster responded,
“Some of these reimbursements and purses are bound by the sanctioning body belts. The fee correlates with the belt that is on the line. There is value for a fight to have that. That is one of the benefits I saw since 1996, we have seen an increase in the number of belts given by organizations. This makes it difficult for the audience to know to know to know” “” “” “
He also commented on the changing economy of the sport, in particular with regard to broadcasts.
“I do not use the term, but there is less and less TV money to go around. I think that is a reasonable thing to say. At least here in California there is less TV money. I am not talking about the Kingdom of Saudi -Arabia.”
This conversation with Big John McCarthy revealed the growing tension between financial sustainability and the integrity of the regulations in professional boxing. Although MMA has streamlined many of his business practices under centralized promotions, boxing continues to struggle with fragmented administration and expensive sanction processes.
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