6.7 liter Cummins vs. 6.7 liter Power Stroke diesel engines: what are the differences? – Jalopnik

6.7 liter Cummins vs. 6.7 liter Power Stroke diesel engines: what are the differences? – Jalopnik





If you ever want to start a discussion among diesel enthusiasts, just bring up the subject of the 6.7 Cummins and PowerStroke diesel engines and watch the sparks fly. It’s a rivalry as old as time itself. Both the 6.7-liter Cummins turbodiesel and Ford Power Stroke engines are titans in the diesel world, known for their massive torque, pulling power and loyal fan following. One is an Indiana-born straight-six that’s essential in Ram trucks, while the other is Ford’s beloved V8 seen in its Super Duty pickups. On paper they have some similarities, but there isn’t much besides their movements.

The Cummins 6.7-liter turbodiesel was introduced in 2007 as a replacement for the 5.9-liter turbodiesel that was a favorite among Ram pickups. You’ll even find it under the hood of the 2027 Ram Power Wagon, an all-terrain vehicle with a diesel engine. The 6.7 shared the rugged cast iron block of the 5.9, but featured performance improvements and longer service intervals. The engine was updated in 2013, increasing torque and improving fuel economy by 10%. In 2019, the fifth-generation Ram HD received a new engine block made of lighter compressed graphite iron and an updated fuel management system, pushing peak torque to more than 1,000 pound-feet.

The Ford 6.7-liter Power Stroke engine, meanwhile, was introduced in 2011 as a replacement for the 6.4-liter Navistar engines. This was Ford’s own V8, codenamed “Scorpion” and featuring its own compressed graphite iron block in addition to Bosch high-pressure fuel injection. Today, the engine produces nearly 1,200 pound-feet of torque.

Engine design

The basic difference between the Cummins Turbo Diesel and the Ford Power Stroke comes from the number of cylinders and the way they are arranged. The Cummins is a six-cylinder turbodiesel engine, meaning the six pistons sit in a straight line and over a long crankshaft. Inline-six engines are among the best balanced engines, as the piston placement inherently eliminates both primary and secondary vibrations. Because it uses fewer pistons than the 6.7 Ford V8, it has huge pistons and a relatively larger bore and stroke. It also offers better low-end grunt, making it ideal for towing applications. The engine layout also means it is underloaded, meaning Cummins power plants can easily travel a million miles with proper maintenance.

The Ford PowerStroke is a V8 turbodiesel with four cylinders on each bank and a shorter crankshaft. It is also a lot more complex than the Cummins. The engine has a reverse-flow header design, which is different from a traditional V8. The latter has the exhaust manifold on the outside of the engine banks, while the Ford has the exhaust gases from the valley of the engine, directly into the turbocharger. This reduces turbo lag and makes the engine quite responsive. While both engines use compacted graphite iron cylinder blocks, the Cummins uses a traditional cast iron cylinder head, while the Power Stroke uses lighter aluminum cylinder heads.

Performance

For diesel vehicles, torque is the most important statistic. Both 6.7 engines deliver huge amounts of torque here, but differ in the way they deliver it, with the Ford 6.7 Power Stroke topping the performance charts. In the High Output version found on top-spec Ford Super Duty trucks, the V8 turbodiesel produces 500 hp and 1,200 Nm of torque. However, the 6.7 Cummins turbo diesel is not far behind in terms of performance, with an output of almost 430 hp and 1,075 Nm of torque. It should be noted that despite its simplistic build, even the early iterations produced a formidable 370 horsepower and 850 pound-feet of torque.

Peak power and torque only tell part of the story. The Cummins engine delivers its torque over a wider speed range thanks to the inline six-cylinder engine and turbo setup. This allows it to effortlessly pull heavy loads even on steeper slopes, while the Power Stroke does this with brute force. Peak power is delivered at a slightly higher rpm with a more aggressive power delivery, especially in the High Output engine configuration. However, when it comes to the real world, both engines deliver. With its extra torque, the Power Stroke has a slight edge when it comes to maximum power, but that doesn’t stop people from loving the Cummins alternative.

The deep end

Reliability, service life and durability are the basis for these types of engines. The 6.7 Cummins has a long-standing reputation for bulletproof longevity. Most of that reputation is due to its simple but robust engine architecture, but other considerations make it a favorite among long-haul fleet and heavy commercial users. The in-line six configurations leave plenty of space, making repairs and diagnostics easier. These engines also use the reliable Bosch CP3 high-pressure fuel pump for the 6.7, outside of a brief period (2019-2020) when they switched to – and returned from – the not so reliable Bosch CP4.2.

The early 6.7 Power Stroke engines had some teething problems with their high-pressure fuel pumps and turbochargers. (According to owners, these are the worst years for the Ford 6.7 Power Stroke.) These engines have always used Bosch CP4.2 pumps, which were known for their aversion to poor quality fuel. The newer generation of Power Stroke engines (from 2015) solved most of these problems and featured improved durability and reliability. In terms of serviceability, the layout of Ford’s V8 engine limits easy access to certain areas. But compared to Cummins, Ford’s vast dealer network means you can find help even in the most remote regions.

While real-world feedback helps push Cummins forward in terms of durability, modern Power Strokes are also quite reliable. Diesel forums indicate that both engines will exceed the 300,000 mile mark, provided they are properly maintained. Under normal use, most users won’t even reach the point where they put any strain on these motors anyway. All they require is emissions-related maintenance, such as periodic DPF rains and EGR cooler cleaning.

Driving experience

Cummins users are generally impressed by the fact that there is sufficient torque available even at low engine speeds, allowing the machine to pull heavy loads with minimal fuss. However, towing speeds are somewhat limited by the lack of gears in the six-speed transmission. The Power Stroke engines feel more enthusiastic as they leave the line because of their high power and the way they are mated to the 10-speed automatic transmission, which also greatly complements their towing capacity.

In terms of fuel economy, the Cummins engine offers relatively less miles per gallon when towing heavy loads. This isn’t as bad as it sounds, as some Cummins engines can even run on biodiesel. But the 6.7 Power Stroke offers better fuel economy when driving in loaded conditions and on the highway.

As for the driving experience, the Cummins’ engine layout gives it an old school diesel note, while the Ford’s V8 configuration emits a rumbling growl. With their emissions control systems removed, you would notice that the Cummins sounds like an old-fashioned tractor, while the Power Stroke sounds like a jet engine. Overall, both engines are towing champs, but the Cummins rigs feel like real work trucks, while the Power Stroke trucks feel like performance vehicles.

The better choice

There is no real champion here. The 6.7-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel has earned a reputation for its long-distance durability and linear, effortless torque delivery under heavy loads. It has a simpler engine architecture with solid internals that boast a proven track record of reliability and serviceability. The Cummins is the purist’s powertrain: a commercial engine that found its way into a pickup. It spins slowly, loudly, heavily, and may even outlast you.

By comparison, the 6.7 Ford Power Stroke feels like an extra capable beast when you consider speed, smoothness and integrated technology. Compared to the raw, rugged character of the Cummins engine, the Ford V8 is quieter and more advanced. The V8 diesel engine, mated to the 10-speed gearbox, makes for a ridiculously fast ride, and when it comes to towing, it’s an effortless experience, too.

While the Cummins feels like the Old Testament of diesel engines, the Ford Power Stroke feels like the future. If you’re looking for a proven workhorse, the Cummins-powered Ram is your best bet. If you want a fast pickup that can also tow houses when necessary, the Ford Super Duty is for you, even with its other attractive engine option, the 7.3-liter gas-powered Godzilla V8.



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